Kate Gerson comes together with two more partners, Kenan Bishop and John Deasy, in a profound discussion that centers race and power dynamics in the workplace. This episode highlights the importance of both spoken word and action, building community with care, and fostering cultures for people to show up as their authentic selves. The three speak to this series of compelling themes from the lens of their own individual racial identity development journey as a white male, a black male, and a white female. Ultimately, the episode lands on the question of whether a white male can lead an organization that is truly inclusive?
In this episode, we discuss:
0:00 – Introduction to Kenan Bishop and John Deasy
2:15 – How we came to meet
5:00 – Understanding personal journeys with racial identity development
14:00 – Witnessing and supporting other people in their development journey
20:00 – Creating grace as we learn to work differently together
31:00 – What can people gain from understanding racial identity?
43:30 – Can a white man lead a truly inclusive organization?
46:00 – The role of critical repentance in walking forward together
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